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Paul M3VUV

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#13955


Hi all my dccu (14v) had a tant go nuclear on pcb4 reg board,its one of two caps side by side on the pcb,its too badly damaged to see what value it should be!,i have the tech info for the dccu but it doesent give component values or schematic for that circuit as it says it should be replaced not repaired at component level,can anyone help?,ive asked a few folks but it seems to be falling on deaf ears,i may bin it ,restuff the case with 18650 cells a 7s bms and use a 24v hoverboard lipo charger i have,having a good dccu working would be good tho as i have 3 batterys,TIA.

paul
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#13956


Go into the files section and search DCCU the file is there for the 24v has all the circuit diagrams and component values you can check with your board 4 the list says they are both the same c13 c6 140uf 60volt if its still a problem i can open one of mine to double check.
Cheers
Paul

Peter Johnson

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#13957


Hi Paul.

You just beat me to it.

The confusing bit is the tant bit in the subject line.
C6 and C13 according to the parts list are just plain Electrolytic's. Not Tantalum there is only two Tantalum in the charger at a quick look are C2 and C8 on board one.

73 Peter M1BCV

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On 21/05/2022 11:58, paul via groups.io wrote:

Go into the files section and search DCCU the file is there for the 24v has all the circuit diagrams and component values you can check with your board 4 the list says they are both the same c13 c6 140uf 60volt if its still a problem i can open one of mine to double check.
Cheers
Paul

Paul M3VUV

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#13959


well they look like tantalums too me,the exploded one had a slug of ferrite looking stuff in it,looked the same case style as the ones in unit5 psu and the synth.

Paul M3VUV

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#13960


the caps are not resin dipped tantalums but look like silver electrolytcs but are tantalums,theres one in the center of the pic hope that clears it up,my blown up cap is on the pcb on the opposit side outer pcb to the pic,as said its two side by side.

Peter Dodd
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#13962


Hi,

Like these

https://epci.eu/wet-tantalum-capacitors/
Also on ebay

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/192024240341

But you will not like the price.

May be others
Cheers
Peter VK7KPC

Alex Sentana

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#13963


I just replaced them with common electros.

Cheers

Alex VK2PIR

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From: main@PRC-320.groups.io [mailto:main@PRC-320.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Dodd
Sent: Monday, 23 May 2022 10:52 PM
To: main@PRC-320.groups.io
Subject: Re: [PRC-320] dccu tant cap values

Hi,

Like these

https://epci.eu/wet-tantalum-capacitors/
Also on ebay

https://wwwebay.ie/itm/192024240341

But you will not like the price.

May be others
Cheers
Peter VK7KPC

Paul M3VUV

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#13964
Edited


yes there the same caps,i need too know the values of the ones in mine,this is like pulling teeth,i was going to use electrolytics,i cant belive this firstly, i get pointed to the dccu tech docs that says that pcb4 reg board is excange so no schematic or component values,then folks trying to tell me they are not tantalums FFS,why is this so hard??,just tell me the uf and voltage ratings ok.

Paul M3VUV

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#13965


seems to me i am more likley to get a strait answer by :A visiting a fortune teller :B getting a crystall ball,:C consulting a ouigy board or D looking at the tealeafs in the bottom of my cup!!!!

paul
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#13966


The advice values and schematics have been given . If your not capable of repairing i suggest you leave it alone and stop being rude .

John Moore

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#13967


All the information you need is in the files section or previous threads, if you look for it. I'm not sure what others may think, but your approach and attitude does not incline anyone to offer to help you.

Best of luck with it - John.

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John, G8DOG.

Peter Johnson

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#13968


Hi Paul and John,
You echo all of my thoughts.
He is just going to after all get grip or quit.
Plus it would be nicer if he signed his reply with a name and call sign.

73 Peter M1BCV

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On 23/05/2022 16:14, Paul via groups.io wrote:

The advice values and schematics have been given . If your not capable of repairing i suggest you leave it alone and stop being rude .

Niall

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#13969


Agreed. No need for the snotty attitude.

Niall

GM1SXV

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From: Peter Johnson via groups.io
Sent: 23 May 2022 19:50
To: main@PRC-320.groups.io
Subject: Re: [PRC-320] dccu tant cap values

Hi Paul and John,

You echo all of my thoughts.

He is just going to after all get grip or quit.

Plus it would be nicer if he signed his reply with a name and call sign.

73 Peter M1BCV

On 23/05/2022 16:14, Paul via groups.io wrote:

> The advice values and schematics have been given . If your not capable

> of repairing i suggest you leave it alone and stop being rude .

>

Peter Dodd
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#13970


https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/203832128278?hash=item2f75577316:g:hO8AAOSwCetiCk-3

A bit cheaper
Hope I don't have the same problem with my DCCU's
going QRT on this topic.

Cheers

Peter VK7KPC

EDC

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#13971
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Wow, I was going to go to the effort of taking my working 14.4v one apart today after I saw the posts over the last few days, to physically have a look and take a photo.

However, the attitude displayed stinks so I feel completely disinclined to invest my time to do so, I don’t mind helping people but….

Ed
M7TXA

Paul M3VUV

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#13972


so where are the schematics that have been given then for the regulator board including component values,sorry to get on my high horse but it seems dificult getting a strait answer to my question,sorry if i sound rude but trying to get an answer to a simple question has got me pulling my hair out,pluss added to the fact i am recovering fron an operation and find it hard work getting to my pc and dont apreaceate dragging myself to it to read answers that dont help to a very simple question,hope you understand de m3vuv 73

John Moore

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#13973


As has been said before, all you need to know is in the files section. I decided to sort the problem before it occurred on two 320's.they both work fine, and hopefully that will continue. Demanding information in an abusive way will not be if any benefit, so calm down and have a look.
You don't need to keep dragging yourself to the computer, it doesn't take long - there are some entries which even give suppliers part numbers.
Give it a try, and stop throwing your toys out of the pram.
Best 73 - John.
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John, G8DOG.

Paul M3VUV

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#13974


well ive looked in the files section,all the info i see about the dccu says number 4 regulator should be sent off to be repaired so mo cct diagram just a block diagram and no values of components,if its there can you link it please,cheers m3vuv.73

alexanderball50

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#13975


Johnons of Leeds are selling 14V DCCU's for 20 Pounds, just buy a new one.

Alex VK2PRC

On 25/05/2022 3:12 am, nanovnauser@... wrote:

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so where are the schematics that have been given then for the regulator board including component values,sorry to get on my high horse but it seems dificult getting a strait answer to my question,sorry if i sound rude but trying to get an answer to a simple question has got me pulling my hair out,pluss added to the fact i am recovering fron an operation and find it hard work getting to my pc and dont apreaceate dragging myself to it to read answers that dont help to a very simple question,hope you understand de m3vuv 73
Peter Dodd
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#13976


Hi

https://prc-320.groups.io/g/main/files/Yahoo%20Files/prc320/M0RON/1449_Plessey_DCCU_Service_Manual.pdf

Found by searching for DCCU in files section,

All info there.

Do not know what doc you were looking at

Peter
VK7KPC

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How to read tantalum capacitor value? ›

Leaded tantalum capacitor markings: Leaded tantalum capacitors generally have their values marked in microfarads, µF. Typically the markings on a capacitor may give the figures like 22 and 6V. This indicates a 22µF capacitor with a maximum voltage of 6V.

Why do tantalum capacitors fail? ›

Due to current overload, a low-capacity tantalum capacitor used in a circuit with a large peak output current may burn out. This is pretty simple to comprehend. 3. Tantalum capacitors with a high equivalent series resistance (ESR) and a high AC ripple in the circuit induce failure.

Can I replace a tantalum capacitor with an electrolytic? ›

Ceramic capacitors are probably the most frequently used substitute for tantalum-chip capacitors, VP Beck said. Aluminum-electrolytic capacitors are also viable options in some cases, according to Rich Schuster, president of NIC Components Corp.

How do you check if a capacitor is good or bad with a multimeter? ›

Connect the test leads to the capacitor terminals. Keep test leads connected for a few seconds to allow the multimeter to automatically select the proper range. Read the measurement displayed. If the capacitance value is within the measurement range, the multimeter will display the capacitor's value.

What is the typical range of capacitance values for tantalum electrolytic capacitors? ›

General characteristics

Tantalum capacitors are made with capacitance values ranging from 1nF all the way to 72mF and they are much smaller in size than aluminum electrolytic capacitors of the same capacitance.

How much should a capacitor read? ›

For example, a capacitor with a rating of 25 microfarads and a plus or minus rating of 5% will have readings between 23.75 and 26.25 microfarads on the micrometer if it's functioning normally.

How do you choose the right value of a capacitor? ›

Usually, capacitors are derated by the following rule of thumb: a capacitor is selected such that its voltage rating is two to three times greater than the expected operating voltage.

What are the disadvantages of tantalum capacitors? ›

Cons: The capacity is smaller, the price is more expensive than aluminum capacitors, and the resistance to voltage and current is weak. Suitable for large-capacity filtering. For example, tantalum capacitors can be seen near the CPU socket.

What is the best replacement for tantalum capacitors? ›

For high frequency applications, a Tanceram®‚ chip capacitor is an excellent substitute for a Tantalum capacitor. Compared to a Tantalum capacitor, a Tanceram®‚ chip capacitor has a low ESR and low ESL at high frequencies.

What are the weaknesses of tantalum? ›

The major limitation of tantalum is its reactivity with oxygen and nitrogen in the air at temperatures above 300°C.

Do tantalum capacitors degrade over time? ›

Does the capacitance change over time for tantalum and polymer capacitors? Unlike ceramic capacitors, tantalum and polymer capacitors show very stable capacitance over time.

Do tantalum capacitors age? ›

The liquid electrolyte can even dry out over time, resulting in a shorter expected lifetime. By contrast, tantalum capacitors utilize a solid electrolyte that does not dry out, is much more stable over temperature, and has a significantly longer life expectancy.

Can I use ceramic capacitor instead of tantalum? ›

For various reasons including lower cost, smaller size, and/or reliability, some system engineers prefer to use ceramic capacitors instead of tantalum capacitors in their applications. A low-ESR ceramic output capacitor with a discrete series resistor can be used to replace a tantalum output capacitor.

Which side of the tantalum capacitor is positive? ›

One end of the chip tantalum capacitor is marked with a horizontal line, which is the positive electrode of the chip tantalum capacitor, and the other end is the negative electrode. The long end of the lead tantalum capacitor is the positive electrode, and the short end is the negative electrode.

What is the voltage rating of tantalum capacitors? ›

For tantalum capacitors a DC bias voltage of 1.1 to 1.5 V for types with a rated voltage of ≤2.5 V or 2.1 to 2.5 V for types with a rated voltage of >2.5 V may be applied during the measurement to avoid reverse voltage.

What is the ESR of a tantalum capacitor? ›

From 100 KHz to 70 MHz the typical 4.7µF Tanceram®‚ chip capacitor has a measured ESR from . 05 to . 02 Ohms while a typical 10µF Tantalum capacitor ESR measures from 1.2 to 0.8 Ohms.

Should a capacitor have continuity? ›

It's a two-terminal passive electrical component. Capacitance is the term used to describe the effect of a capacitor. Yes, there should be continuity in the capacitor. When the capacitor is closed, it is said to have continuity.

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